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I was going to add this link to the "Predators Among Us" discussion I posted previously, but I very strongly feel that this expose by Sue at WFI deserves a space of it's own. If you're as horrified and outraged as I am, and feel the need to take action, please join one of the campaign groups or visit the "Get Active!" section here on PACA, or email Sue and get information on volunteering to help with any mailing/emailing campaigns that come up through WFI. Another option is that you can email any of the great organizations linked on PACA's main page or on WFI's main page, and ask them how you can help.

If you've got a strong will and a stronger stomach, you may also look into becoming a predator barrier. If you wish to do this, I strongly advise that you follow the instructions in the link above to the letter,. Read the link for a full explanation on why, and what to do.

Warning! The information contained in this post is very disturbing and graphic in nature. This information is unsuitable for minors, so parents, please use discretion. Please don't read further if you're depressed or have a hard time dealing with information about predators, as this is even more disturbing than the "Predators Among Us" post linked above.

The Pedophiles among us

Unfortunately most people don’t have a clue about pedophiles and what they do online. A lot of people have seen TV shows about internet predators and such. But I’m talking about real pedophiles and child predators forming support groups online and openly talking about children sexually.

They use fake screen names to remain anonymous. This allows them to say anything short of admitting a crime. They hold nothing back. They talk about their sexual fantasies with children. They are brazen and shamelessly proud.

They post pictures of children online in sexual poses. They have what are called avatars or “sig pics” where they use pictures of children to represent themselves online.

They talk about little girl’s worn underwear that they collect and use for sexual gratification. Then they joke about selling them to each other... (click on pictures for larger view)


Most people don’t have a clue:

They plot and plan against the rest of the world to try to gain acceptance. They want to abolish the age of consent (AOC) for sex. One pedophile, “Golem”, talks in graphic detail about how he would have sex with an 8 year old, if it was legal, of course…

"It would take months of preperation to get, say, an 8 year old girl physically ready for full intercourse with an adult man. Months of streching excersises, sexual aclimitizing(to make her more comfortable with her girl parts, so she doesn't get nervous, and tense up during, possibly causing injury), and practice sessions. ....She would have to be masturbated by her partner with fingers or objects inside of her most every day. ...there's no danger in intercourse with a girl of 8, or even an average sized girl of 6"

Pedophile Cody says…

“Do I think that Sex with LGs [Little Girls] should be legal.. Of course I do, but the same as other relations, only if the Child does want It and it is good for the child and done in a gentle and caring way... I believe it is ok for kids to explore who they are sexually and that they do want It.. The laws hurt them as much as they hurt Us...”


Most people don’t have a clue:

Most pedophiles really believe their own lies. They call themselves childlovers (CL), girllovers (GL), or boylovers (BL), or minor attracted adults (MAA). They believe that sex is not harmful to children and that parents and society hurt kids by preventing them from having sex.

“The harm from early sexual experience's does NOT come from the experience itself. It comes from society telling kids that they were victims. It comes from force feeding them that sex is something magical and can't be fully understood until they reach a magical age, and then all is well. It comes from shoving down their throats that ANY adult that is sexually attracted to children is a sick pervert and only out for one thing.” - Silent Mist

Most people don’t have a clue:

I bet you didn’t know that there are “people” out there who are sexually attracted to infants and toddlers. They talk about how they are turned on by babies in diapers. They brag about going to the beach on a summer day and seeing toddlers running naked along the shore. Then they describe the measures they use to cover their erections from the parents while lusting after their babies. They get turned on by looking at the pictures on the diaper packages in the store. They call themselves Nepiophiles, or Nepis...


Parents think that their infants are safe from the pedophiles. That’s simply not true...




Most people don’t have a clue:

I bet you didn’t know that there are websites out there with child rape and torture stories on them. It’s perfectly legal. You know, free speech and all. I stumbled onto these sites several years ago. The “stories” there are the most horrible things you could ever image in your worst possible nightmare. The pages are filled with graphic descriptions of rape, torture, blood, screams, and pain.

One of these sites offers their explanation as to why they do what they do…

“One of [our] founding principles is free speech, and as a result of this we welcome with open arms just about any kind of erotic literature that someone is willing to take the time to write. With this in mind, anyone with anything less than a completely open mind is sure to find something that would get their stomach churning or their temper flamed. ...some people enjoy writing about such events, and others enjoy reading them. We can't offer any further explanation than this.”

Most people don’t have a clue:

How do these pedophiles keep their sites online? You’d think most hosting companies would shut them down after they found out what was on them. Not true. Believe me; I’ve notified the hosting companies- over and over. There are web hosts out there that brag about allowing any legal content in order to support free speech. Web hosts like Ripe NCC, Nearly Free Speech, Argon Blue, The Planet, Insane Journal, and Best Hosting.

Most people don’t have a clue:

Did you know that pedophiles write books, get them published and sell them on Amazon.com? You can read about our Boycott Amazon.com campaign here.

They even have their own pedo twitter-like site. We've contacted this site and notified them of the pedophile activity there.

Pedophiles are banning together online to support each other in their desire to abuse and rape children. They provide a place to go to openly talk about sexual fantasies with children, while remaining safely anonymous. Moderators on these sites even look out for users to make sure they don’t reveal too much personal information. They teach each other how to “stay safe” and hide from law enforcement. They openly encourage each other to pursue children and satisfy their own sexual urges.

They do this out in the open for all to see. It makes them feel powerful and in charge. It gives them a place to go to ask questions. Questions like...

"...what type of swimwear do you think looks best on little girls, a one-piece swimsuit or a bikini?" - jane236

"what is your favorite size and shap breast in girls? " - crazy

"What Part Of A LG's Body Turns You On? ... For me it has to be the thighs & ass." - mrlOverlOver

"If it were legal?, At what age would you play, sexually with a baby, what would yo do?" - jonphil

"If you could, would you legally adopt a girl in your AoA, but when you bring her home, treat her like an equal, or a girlfriend rather than a daughter?" - JBaholic

"Do your LGF-s breastfeed their dolls?" - kratt

"How can I get my boy to like hugging me?" - Aionios

"Do they manufacture condoms for boys?" - martin




For those who aren't up on pedophile lingo, "LGF" is for "Little Girl Friend".

" They use fake screen names to remain anonymous. This allows them to say anything short of admitting a crime. They hold nothing back. They talk about their sexual fantasies with children. They are brazen and shamelessly proud."
I've had a few "discussions" with pedophiles on YouTube where the fact that they're very proud of what they do is painfully obvious. I was even called an unfit mother by one guy because I said wouldn't help my son to "seduce" an adult if he showed an interest in that adult sexually... Young children do not show a sexual interest in any adult unless they're groomed to do so, but pedophiles don't want that little bit of info to be widely known.

They seem to love getting into "discussions" with "nons" (which is what they call people who are not sexually attracted to children), and they will carry on endlessly if you allow them to. On the plus side, it only goes to show the rest of the world just how sick they are. On the negative, it's very draining, and there are some pretty gullible people out there who, despite being "nons", would believe that some of their tripe might be true and help perpetuate their lies.

"They post pictures of children online in sexual poses. They have what are called avatars or “sig pics” where they use pictures of children to represent themselves online."
Many of the predators on the Ning sites I recently helped shut down (see "Predators Among Us" link above) had themselves listed as adult members, yet had pictures of children as their profile picture... some of them pornographic in nature.

If you scroll back up and read "Golem's" description of how to prepare an 8 year old girl for intercourse, it sort of reads like the Frosts' suggested course for the initiation of a child at the onset of puberty (which, as we all know, can happen as young as 8 years old), only "Golem" goes into more graphic detail, and even suggests that it would be OK for a child of 6 years to go through this.

And Cody says:
“Do I think that Sex with LGs [Little Girls] should be legal.. Of course I do, but the same as other relations, only if the Child does want It and it is good for the child and done in a gentle and caring way... I believe it is ok for kids to explore who they are sexually and that they do want It.. The laws hurt them as much as they hurt Us...”
... because that's not the same as rape, even when it's done to a child. Sick POS. There is no "gentle and caring way" to rape another being, and children don't "want It".

“The harm from early sexual experience's does NOT come from the experience itself. It comes from society telling kids that they were victims. It comes from force feeding them that sex is something magical and can't be fully understood until they reach a magical age, and then all is well. It comes from shoving down their throats that ANY adult that is sexually attracted to children is a sick pervert and only out for one thing.” - Silent Mist
How many of those of you who have actually experienced sexual abuse as a child would agree with this statement? This is the kind of bull**** lies that these people spread every chance they get, and that the more gullible people of the world help to perpetuate.

I bet you didn’t know that there are websites out there with child rape and torture stories on them. It’s perfectly legal. You know, free speech and all. I stumbled onto these sites several years ago. The “stories” there are the most horrible things you could ever image in your worst possible nightmare. The pages are filled with graphic descriptions of rape, torture, blood, screams, and pain.
Unfortunately, as long as they're not posting any CP *pictures*, or admitting to actual illegal activity, there is nothing that can be done if the host service believes that posting this stuff on their servers is OK. When Sue has come across such host servers, she has gone after their advertising dollars, which can be pretty effective. If no one wants to advertise on a hosting service that approves of child rape stories, they have no source of income.

This is all some pretty disturbing stuff, which is why I recommended that anyone who suffers depression just not read it.

If anyone has any questions, comments, or suggestions on how to help stop this, please post.

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